London Bike Show - Rose Beefcake by mattwragg

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iamamodel (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:40)

A little request for bike reviewers and photographers - could we please see photos of both sides of the bike? Often the crankset covers up the linkages and pivot points. I'd like to see that sort of thing.

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RoseBikesUK (Jan 19, 2012 at 2:26)

You can view a 360degree image of the stock BeefCakeDH 2 on the Rose website.

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UnisaurProductions (Jan 19, 2012 at 9:29)

he seems to know whats going on...

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mtnbker395 (Jan 19, 2012 at 17:06)

definitely still agree. looks amazing though especially for a pretty good price. solid Smile

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cyberhawk Plus (Jan 23, 2012 at 5:09)

im with iamamodel.. i hate drive sides..

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dobdobby (Jan 19, 2012 at 3:01)

Kind of embarrassing for your man there to not know either the bike's geo or even where his teams' riders are from. To paraphrase him: 'here's a bike. Some people will ride it'. Still, looks like a decent spec for the eurodollarpounds.

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RoseBikesUK (Jan 19, 2012 at 3:40)

Its unfortunate that we didn't have the full press release in time for the show.

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mountguitars (Jan 19, 2012 at 9:16)

spot on dob. like he didn't say if its in euros, USD or pounds. what's up with that?

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LIVE-4-WEEKEND (Jan 19, 2012 at 9:58)

it will be in euros. They are a European company, with no suppliers or retailers in the UK.

All their catalogues display price in German

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RoseBikesUK (Jan 19, 2012 at 12:37)

Prices on the video are in £ you can buy from the site in £gbp and also read it in English by going to www.rosebikes.co.uk
If you need to get in touch with a UK rep you can email us on here or join us on Facebook and we'll pass on our email.

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gravity354 (Jan 19, 2012 at 4:11)

Rosebike - sorry about the anonymous internet haters who have never designed / built a bike, much less marketed and sold it. It looks fast and clean, and I love the round tubes. Reminds me of when high end bikes were fabbed locally using a set of Reynolds or Easton tubes, not hydroformed in a huge bike factory in China.

Keep up the good work and good luck!!

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ScaryGerry (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:03)

Them tubes ain't round...

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dkidd (Jan 19, 2012 at 15:55)

...and I would be really surprised if Rose had designed/built a bike either... smacks a bit of a catalog frame.

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Nathanthecreator (Jan 19, 2012 at 20:23)

How's the taste down there gravity354?

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tomcrowther (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:16)

It looks super sick! That video was a shambles though, seems like nothing was planned

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Tjur (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:05)

The guy thinks Belgium has two national 4X champions this year... (Wichman is Dutch)

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dingus (Jan 19, 2012 at 2:36)

According to the Rose press release on Dirt, Joost Wichman is racing 4x and enduro this year, so he isn't a "former 4x pinner" yet Pinkbike...

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MTB253 (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:14)

its a bottlerocket on steroids!

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Circes (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:15)

That would be a blindside...

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jamielee1 (Jan 19, 2012 at 3:30)

@Circes, you beat me there! I saw it on the home page and the only word my comment was going to consist of was 'Blindside'.

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smike (Jan 19, 2012 at 6:52)

except it's not a faux bar...

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Tsoxbhk (Jan 19, 2012 at 7:03)

Can you even get these bikes in the US. That looks like a fsr pivot. Unless it says specialized on it somewhere like Norcos do you prob cant even get it here.

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smike (Jan 19, 2012 at 7:40)

I believe the FSR patent has recently expired.

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mountguitars (Jan 19, 2012 at 9:18)

FSR vs Faux bar. looks the same but operates differently. way different.

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LIVE-4-WEEKEND (Jan 19, 2012 at 10:00)

you should be able to get them in the US. Bear in mind prices are in Euros

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nikoli (Jan 19, 2012 at 10:57)

I am not sure how the patent effects these types of things, but I do know that Specialized owns the "Horst Link" or FSR design. Much like Joe Lawill owns the "Lawill parallel linkage design" which is much older than the FSR or "Horst Link" and anyone who wants to use it has have to permission and pay a royalty to him, (Joe lawill that is.) I could be completely wrong, but I "think" (emhasis on think..) it may be the same situation with the big S....just throwin this out there, would love to hear more info on the subject if anyone has any...

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jacobinmugatu (Jan 19, 2012 at 11:29)

I think you mean Mert Lawill, he developed the Lawill leader suspension for and Lawill suspension design. Not Joe he is/was a rider, his father was the designer.

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nikoli (Jan 19, 2012 at 14:55)

Yeah thanks, that is what I meant...I always get their names mixed up!

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Circes (Jan 19, 2012 at 16:20)

Have to be careful with specialized. They're all about their trivial law suits.

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finlay (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:44)

OK guys, - you arrive at a show, knowing nothing of the new team, or about the bike that arrived 24 hours before.
A camera gets shoved up your snout and you have to "wing it"

I think personally in this format video is kind of lost, but I wanted to say something for you all.
Lets see you guys have a go - with notes on a napkin from a press release that hadn't been released yet, I think most of the haters would have trouble making a complete sentence.

Jeez though don't I look fat!!!!! runs off to do some training

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AndrewLamb (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:04)

dont like that chain device bet its pretty light though

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wakaba (Jan 19, 2012 at 21:26)

Main marketing victims of Rose` are first time buyers looking for a good deal and basing their buying decision on "Bike" Magazine of Germany Testscore (which is really screwed up). Taiwanese sweatshop frame blingifyed by Rose`windowdresser. Shiny mailorder bike that looks old before the season is over. The proteam will make the bikes more expensive but hey they get paid to ride whatever they are told to.

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andyd2506 (Jan 21, 2012 at 2:47)

cant find my old comment? and not sure how to reply to someone who has replied to my post. Frown

so sorry if you don't see this to Rosebikes uk, I'm not saying you cant use just straight pipes and yes sometimes it's nice to keep it simple and and old school i just think the development of bikes has come along way and where some are trying new angles and twists and whatever else this just looks a bit to old, sorry it's just my opinion and in order to be successful you have to except criticism as well as praise or you won't know the what people really think... it's just my opinion. but then i have weird dress sense LOL would like it to look a bit more funky and in your face where as this just seems to be in the background for me...

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ktmman143 (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:12)

ya know..if ya cant hire someone to know about your riders or the BIKE ITSELF, cant say that inspires any confidence in me to even think this bike could make it down a hill..where do you find these jokers, its not hard to do a bit of research on the product you're representing..FAIL

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bagedntaged (Jan 19, 2012 at 4:12)

i like it. it's nice to see a downhill bike that looks like a bike. nice, clean and "simple" looking much like orange bikes. be good to see how it's riders do on it.

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arnomtb (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:02)

Joost Wichman is not Belguim 4x champion...i suppose he is Dutch national champion....

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speppy2316 (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:07)

man i want one had to try and stop my self frow drawling over it lol.

anyone hear that there was a road bike stolen from the london bike show, just up and out with no one stopping the person lol.

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Greenwood102 (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:10)

Thief probably had men inside

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speppy2316 (Jan 19, 2012 at 6:04)

sounds about right, but my god if you saw it worst looking bike ever, would need 3D glases to read the name of it.

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HJ22MTB (Jan 19, 2012 at 9:10)

It was a road bike... no one probibly cared Wink

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valioto (Jan 19, 2012 at 9:15)

the bike looks nice but I think there is nothing new and unique in the frame design and most importantly the shock position...

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Its-That-Guy (Jan 19, 2012 at 18:09)

Why fix what aint broke.

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jgottya1 (Jan 19, 2012 at 19:44)

Like the carbo cage chainguide and the internal headtube cable routing...hopefully that wont be a stress point of concentration!

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joemtbftw (Jan 19, 2012 at 3:08)

I really like it, the lower version is a really reasonable price new and so is the top model, they look good too and im sure theyd ride nicely

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Circes (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:25)

Reminds me a little of a blindside...but just because it's a single pivot. Like that carbocage.

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RoseBikesUK (Jan 19, 2012 at 2:22)

You're right the blindside is a single pivot, the beefcake is a true four bar though.

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flavtfan (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:22)

Wonder if the rear triangle might have a chance to be a little flexy. definitely a clean looking bike and a decent price for downhill

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stolennick (Jan 19, 2012 at 3:03)

I have ridden Rose bikes before. (Uncle Jimbo (enduro) & Beefcake (FR)). Both were very flexy. Once you get used to it you will miss it. Smile

Hope to see the design for the production bikes. The standard colour is as ugly is a sin...

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donch15 (Jan 19, 2012 at 5:11)

That does not look like it will be nearly stiff enough to race world cups. I bet the team will have to keep a full stock of replacement seat stays.

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RoseBikesUK (Jan 19, 2012 at 6:14)

Katy only broke one rear end last year on her BeefCakeSL (much lighter frameset than the DH with the regular 135mm not 150mm) and this only happened at La Bresse where she broke her arm casing the last massive jump before they made it smaller. But we will see how this bike gets on over 2012!

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donch15 (Jan 19, 2012 at 6:39)

I guess if you design a bit of flex into the bike, you can account for it and it's not such a bad thing.

It's a sweet looking bike anyways. Simple & Effective. Just how a mountain bike should be.

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Worm-Burner (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:03)

Lovely bike!...but I know you thought of this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ_8xhvTUMw

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Waldon83 (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:13)

No saturated fats on this bike. Just a guy named Joost

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Hertz32 (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:35)

it is designed to go straight to the stomach where it is distributed to the bloodstream!!!

isnt that what food does? Smile

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Bunceey (Jan 21, 2012 at 16:45)

I was There, Was an amazing show, looked at this bike for some time it is a Beautiful peice of kit!!

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akashk (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:08)

this is sexy

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gtaadicto (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:01)

looks like a canyon torque frx copy

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Bikerhasi (Jan 20, 2012 at 7:32)

Even it's from Germany...it's so ugly :/

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croatianinja (Jan 20, 2012 at 21:27)

wow anyone else notice the hands holding the bike in the first picture

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frankmartineau (Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53)

Wow a new santa cruz vpfree

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sharpy182 (Jan 19, 2012 at 10:43)

Looks a bit like the old Giant ATX frame....

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jaydmf (Jan 19, 2012 at 3:12)

Looks very much like a modded canyon torque from 2010/11

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gtaadicto (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:03)

wtf im spanish but my flag is canadian¿?

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joemtbftw (Jan 19, 2012 at 3:07)

change where youre from then

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ScaryGerry (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:01)

Yea, we accept anyone now a days Smile

As for the bike, its a blast from the past... That rear end cant be stiff with puny chain stays and linkages like that can it?

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Pat3r (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:03)

every time i look at this bike i think the down tube says "kool"

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blazebike (Jan 19, 2012 at 4:09)

what a tired design....

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carrot-cruncher (Jan 19, 2012 at 5:35)

well that was an amateurish film/photo.

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Nobble (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:07)

damn that's clean Eek

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downhillmichel (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:12)

isnt the chain slapping against the rear derrailleur cable?

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RoseBikesUK (Jan 19, 2012 at 2:24)

Unfortunately yes it is. When we get the team bikes we are going to re-route the cable, this was sent over for the show and has now gone back to Germany to be readied for the upcoming season.

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downhillmichel (Jan 19, 2012 at 7:10)

how about a cap over the smal hole where youre cable for the front derailleur (or adjustable seatpost i think)? dont want to be negative but it are a few things that catch my attention. keep up the good work!!

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RoseBikesUK (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:49)

yep, the holes in the frame for the adjustable seatpost/front mech would be covered on the production models.

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downhillmichel (Jan 19, 2012 at 9:59)

Oké how Munch rearend travellercheque?

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dickieboy (Jan 19, 2012 at 15:46)

looks good.

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finlay (Jan 19, 2012 at 8:58)

Thanks :o)

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SwintOrSlude (Jan 19, 2012 at 2:17)

Cannot wait to see how many of these carbocages they will shatter

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SarahStuttard (Jan 19, 2012 at 0:07)

Looks a bit like a sunn radical if i'm honest, but it's got a sweet name Big Grin

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tsaktop (Jan 19, 2012 at 5:13)

no way.. more like transition blindside

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SarahStuttard (Jan 20, 2012 at 11:19)

Only the position of the rear sus Wink

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tonycooper (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:54)

everybody make frames with no point this days...

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tonycooper (Jan 19, 2012 at 1:58)

but with reasonable price...

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London Bike Show - Rose Beefcake

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